Harken 6:1

MMadge/Brad:

See my post above. This is the right way to feed the blocks. Line should NOT cross one another OR go outside the blocks, That way will cut the line and twist the blocks crazy.

James:

Lay the blocks on there side and measure the diameter of the blocks. 3"or OK, 2.25" is better. You will get more mast rake with 2.25", without going block to block. See my post above for how to run line.

Hope this helps?

Doug

this just shows there are more than one way to do things that all work. My way works great for me, may not work for everyone. these blocks have prob seen more use than most people boat get in a life time, racing at worlds, nations, having the US Sailing youth team train on the boat for about a year, 4-5 times a week.

I will see if I can get my blocks back out get some pictures, it is the same way they are ran in the Hobie catalog, only difference if I run my tag line around the outside of the block and back up to the tie off point, just a personal thing I do may it be right or wrong.

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Doug,
Laying on their side the blocks measure 2.25". Good for me I think I'll keep my setup as is for now, although those carbos look nice that's dough I just don't have. To be honest, I have no idea what difference it would make right now, I'm almost ashamed to say but I've never sailed on any water where two hobies were at the same place at the same time. I sure do smoke the mono's though. I'm hoping that will all change soon though. There is a chance that I may try to make it down to the midwinter's east just to see what a regatta looks like, never been to FL either. I may try to participate in Lake Hartwell's Spring Fever Regatta on the GA/SC border as my debut event.

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86' Redline Hobie 16
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James:

What do have should work OK. Just check and make sure your lines don't cross when reeving. It take a few tries to figure out the right combination if you don't have something to go from. Just look at my pics. Yours may tie off on a becket or somewhere else. Just make sure it is smooth and try to get some 5/16 line. It will feed out better when you change to gp downwind. (When you start racing you will see how important that is)

Did you ever get the DVD? The seminar will REALLY help you. I know you got the books. Also I may be coming to Raleigh for 2 weeks training. How close are you to there?

Doug

yea there is no need to upgrade the blocks you have. 5/16 line will work great. try to get down to MWE, how much do you weigh, people are always loking for crew.

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Doug,
I am really close to Raleigh, I live just outside of Fayettville. It is only about a 45 minute drive. If you are in town you can contact me at (910) 527-7203 or email me at jsa0605@mail dot ecu dot edu. What kind of training are you doing, is it something that perhaps I could be involved with? I don't know about the DVD per se, but when I bought my boat it came with the two Hobie videos, I think by Rick White? I've actually mailed them off to another newbie to help clear things up for him.

Brad,
I would love to make it down there. It's coming up sooner than I thought. I weigh in at around 240. I'm a little big for this boat I know, but keep in mind I'm also 6'5", not much I can do exept maybe get a bigger boat. I know you racing guys shoot for the 285 mark, right? I really want to start attending regattas and learning more about the racing aspect of sailing. I will start looking in to more permanant plans about attending. I plan on joining HCA tommorow.

Where are the NC regattas, there is abundant coastline? It's like it's all centered around Cali and Florida. I've contacted my local fleet but haven't heard of any dates as of yet, granted this is the off season around these parts.

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86' Redline Hobie 16
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Go neoprene. The rug stays wet always and forever, getting your shorts wet just as you get on the water, and your shirt wet when de-rigging the boat as you lean on the rail to reach something. In the Hobie catalog it's not that much more than the rug, but worth it.

James:

Good luck getting stuff to stick. I can't remember (age thing, been to long since I sailed a 16) does tramp on side go over crossbars? On my vinyl wing covers I put the black stuff like sand paper? I could get nothing to keep it glued. I finally just took it off and went with the water shoes things you can at Academy in the summer and Ronstan racing boots when cold to keep from slipping.

The training is for new job I hope to get. Will know more by Friday. If I go it will be around March 9th time frame. I will save number and info and let you know more. Maybe you and girlfriend can meet me the weekend between for drinks and partying somewhere? After a week of class I WILL be ready. It is on UT Phased Array. (I know makes no sense to you), BUT your profession is VERY important to me as I am Bipolar.

PLEASE get this DVD. I have 25 years of cat sailing and still learned a lot from it. It WILL cut three years off your learning curve. Get it from Hobie Dealer if you can, if not from Rick.

http://store.catsailor.com/tek9.asp?pg= ... jnrorrrrg4

Hope you have better luck,

Doug

Skipshot,
Thanks for the advice. I think I will go the neoprene route. Your definately right about the carpet staying wet forever.

Doug,
On the H16, the tramp slides into the sidebars and forward crossbar. There in a lacing strip that feed into the rear crossbar. I was able to get the carpet to stick, I worked pretty hard cleaning off all the goop from the last set I had on there, then sanding, and then acetone or maybe rubbing alchohol, which is why I'm a little bummed that they are deteriorating so quickly. On one rail, more than the other, it has developed these little spots of worn carpet? It almost looks rusty. I'll post a pic and maybe someone could tell me if I did something wrong during the instalation?

Give me a call if you are in town. Raleigh is a pretty cool little city. If you like live music there are usually some pretty good cheap shows. I'm really thinking about trying to make it to Midwinters east around the 9th. But, like I said give me a call and we'll work something out.

Good luck with your job. I didn't know if that training you spoke of was Hobie related? And your right, I have no idea what phased array systems are. My girlfriend might, she's getting her masters in decision sciences/management info systems. I still really don't even know what the hell that is?

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Sail # 76909

James:

Yea live music would be nice. Did you get what I said about DVD? Roll Tacking alone is worth the price.

Doug

James,

You may want to consider the "Surefoot Eva Grip Kit" on page 35 in the Murray's catalogue. It has great traction. The only drawback is the wear they get on the bottom from the trap return bungee. However, I have since created a trap return system that would allow me to go further aft without accessive bungee resistance and it does not wear on the rug on the sidebars.



Don't know if you want to have to go through all of this and I definately don't want to add to your confusion but these are my experiences. If the bungee doesn't wear on the type of railrug that you're planning on getting, maybe you're better off sticking with that one.

Happy Sailing,

David

Thank you for the comments. Here is what my rail rug currently looks like.

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It seems like it is continuing to get worse as time goes on, and I haven't taken her out it a while. It is like this on this side about the length of the sidebar, it is just now starting to show up on the other side to. Does anyone have any ideas on what may have caused this? I'm very tolerable to criticism so feel free to tell me if it looks like I did something wrong. I certainly don't want to make the same mistake twice.

(It's kind of funny how some of these post topics can carry on like this, this started off as me advertising the wrong blocks on ebay. ) Don't get me wrong, I'm not complaining in the least.


Hey Brad, if you here of anyone looking for a crew member please let me know, if they don't mind my lack of experience. Like I said I've never raced but I am very interested. If not I still want to come down and see what they are all about. Looks like my chances for coming down are improving as well. Plus it's during my girl's spring break so bonus!

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Yeah, your butt from sitting on it. Nothing lasts, just replace it. Getting that crap off will take lots of elbow grease, a putty knife and some acetone. I smoothed out the clumps of old glue as best I could with the putty knife, then applied the new stuff. The whole thing took about 4 beers to complete.

James,

You're right!!! I don't know how you got from a "6:1 blocks" to "railrugs." Anyway, I can see that your rug is worn on top. Most of the wear is usually on the outside. Normally, you shouldn't have that much wear if you sailed your boat every weekend for a year. That might be a material deficiency.

Happy Sailing

David

Hey Skipshot,

Do you think acetone would help?? Would you do mine for 4 beers and airfare ??? You're not that far away.

Happy Sailing

David