Jib setup

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Hey everyone. I have heard a few differing veiws on how to set up the jib system. This is how it is on my boat. It may be hard to see but I actually have two different colored lines, I want to replace all of my sheets in the near future and make them a little more visibly color coded. Is this a prefered setup? I like it ok but it seems like it would be easier to only have one continuous looped sheet. Is this possible or would I be putting myself at a disadvantage. I don't understand how to simplify this and if I do how the traveler cars would be adjusted. What do ya'll think? Should I leave it like it is or change the system? It seems like a lot to deal with when sailing solo, which I like to do occasionally. But then again it also seems like this makes the rig more adjustable. Any advise is appreciated.

James

(Sorry if the pictures are small, I've just had my technologically advanced girlfriend explain how to put these pics on here. I, am a little less technologically savy and haven't quite figured it all out yet)

Ok cool, now I see you can click on the image for a better view.

James,

Your jib sheet should be continuous. Everything as you've got it rigged but the two line ends terminate at the traveller cars.

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hobiejohn at earthlink dot net
Fleet 297

Ok. I think I understand what you are saying. The jib sheet is continuous on each side of the mast, a different color for each tack, I think that I'm saying that right. I think it may be hard to see in the photos but each colored line/sheet does both begin and end on the traveler car. So this is correct? It sails fine like this I was just trying to see if it was more complex than I needed or not. I certainly like being able to adjust the cars from a distance.

James

Take a look at http://www.catsailor.com/forums/showfla ... o=&fpart=1 .

Jib sheet should be continous. Set up the barber haul lines so they go in front of the mast. Use the port cleat for the starboard car and starboard cleat for port. That'll eliminate some of the crew snagging lines.

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Another thought. You don't need heavy line for the barber haul lines. Get small stuff so it runs easier.

Get rid of the cooler rack. It'll snag your jib sheets whe tacking. If you can't do without it run a bungee from the mast to the bridle chain plate.

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Thanks for the reply. I'll take a look at the site you provided. The cooler rack can definately go. I rarely use it anyhow.

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James
86' Redline Hobie 16
Sail # 76909

Where are we supposed to put all the beer and mixers without the rack?

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It's such a fine line between stupid and clever.

86 H16

Ok, just to clarify, what exactly are the barber haul lines? I see how to make the jib sheet continuous, but what about the lines that control the traveler? Am I to undertand that I need to add an additional lance cleat on each side of the mast. Do the lines that control the traveler car not conect to anything besides the traveler themselves, and sit freely on the tramp? Am I to get rid of the cam cleats on each traveler in leu of the blocks? Are the traveler cars adjustable from the wire for instance? Please bear with me. I am trying my very best to understand. I've never had the chance to look at any other set up on any other cat. If you, or anyone else with this setup could possibly post pictures of your setup it may be clearer. The diagram you have provided is very nice, but I am still a little confused. If you could explain this as if I had no idea what you were talking about it may help. I am still learning all the technical names for parts. This is the only kind of boat I have ever really sailed on. Reguardless thank you for your diagram, and input.

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James
86' Redline Hobie 16
Sail # 76909

Mike (hobie1616) was showing you the diagram mainly for the jib sheet being continuous.

Your swivel cleats, for traveler control, serve the same purpose as the lance cleats in the diagram.

You can use your individual traveler lines and have control "from the wire", tie the free end off to the shroud. Port control line to Starboard shroud and vice versa. Make sense?

Forget the word barberhauler. That system does not apply to the 16.

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hobiejohn at earthlink dot net
Fleet 297

Yes, I believe that makes complete sense now. I am starting to understand how this all works. Correct me if I am wrong. I have one continuous jib sheet (for sheeting the jib) lets say blue? I have one line for the starbord traveler, lets say green? I have one line for the port traveler, lets say red? The traveler control lines are then tied to the shrouds for ease of access, and are of the lightest and smallest possible line as to not take up weight?

I like the way this sounds. Now when I tack or gybe I can just carry the continuous jib sheet with me? You have no idea how happy this will make my crew, subsequently my girlfriend, as well as myself for when I sail solo. It also beats the hell out of having the jib sheet fall in the water, or through the tramp once the cat starts to heel.

This is great, I'm glad I haven't already replaced my jib sheets as I was planning on doing very soon.

Please help me clarify if I am understanding this correctly. You all are so very helpful

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James
86' Redline Hobie 16
Sail # 76909

James,

You nailed it partner This was a good post

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hobiejohn at earthlink dot net
Fleet 297

sounds like you got it, use 1/4" or 5/16" o the jib and 3/16 on the travler line, make sure they are long enough to run to the opposite shroud and tie off, they criss cross on the deck. See this forum helps someone out every once-n-a while!

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Thank you all so much for all the replies. I don't think I could have figured this out without ya'll. I'll be sure to use those measurements when I order new line.

This forum has helped me out immeasureably. I am so very grateful for all of the sailors on this forum that generously contribute their knowledge. I don't know what other sport has this type of community, its literally world-wide. It still amazes me to think that I can readily get brand newparts for a 20+ year old boat, let alone have them backed by this kind of support. I really just can't say it enough, Hobie and Hobie sailors are the best!!!

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James
86' Redline Hobie 16
Sail # 76909

James:

My boat is 20 years old and look how it looks now. Hobies are tough. I am going to have mine taken apart and have the cups reseated with 4200 and all blots replace on tralier and I will be set on the 17.

Good Luck,

Doug