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PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2016 6:23 am 
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Hi guys, I'm new to kayak fishing and thinking about buying one of those kayaks
and I would like to hear some advice about those kayaks for salt water fishing.


1. Is pro angler worth the money over revolution? PA's definitely more expensive but have some standard features like h-rail and rod storage.

2. Is it possible for a skinny man to load and unload PA on to roof rack without straining back muscle? (Rev 13: 40kg, PA 12: 59kg &PA 14: 66kg)

3. How's the stability difference between those kayaks in sea kayak fishing?

Thanks guys!


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2016 8:44 am 
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sdc99271 wrote:
Hi guys, I'm new to kayak fishing and thinking about buying one of those kayaks
and I would like to hear some advice about those kayaks for salt water fishing.



sdc99271 wrote:
1. Is pro angler worth the money over revolution? PA's definitely more expensive but have some standard features like h-rail and rod storage.


NO

sdc99271 wrote:
2. Is it possible for a skinny man to load and unload PA on to roof rack without straining back muscle? (Rev 13: 40kg, PA 12: 59kg &PA 14: 66kg)


Why even go there? Go with a Revo 11 for even lighter out front.

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3. How's the stability difference between those kayaks in sea kayak fishing?


Put it this way, if you end up in some nasty weather, I would rather be in a Revo over a PA. Also a Revo is going to be much friendlier launching and landing in the surf.
I'm a firm believer in going with the lightest, minimalist application that gets the job done.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2016 11:29 am 
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sdc99271 wrote:
1. Is pro angler worth the money over revolution? PA's definitely more expensive but have some standard features like h-rail and rod storage.

2. Is it possible for a skinny man to load and unload PA on to roof rack without straining back muscle? (Rev 13: 40kg, PA 12: 59kg &PA 14: 66kg)

3. How's the stability difference between those kayaks in sea kayak fishing?



1. The Pro Angler and Revolution are such different animals. The Pro Angler comes with more standard options right out of the box due to the standard H-Rail feature, has more rod and gear storage capacity, and can accept some specific accessories that aren't compatible with the Revolution (like the Power Pole Micro, Livewell XL when it's available again). The Revolution is more of a blank canvas that can certainly be outfitted as a fishing machine. It cuts through chop and swell a bit more efficiently, is lighter in weight, but lacks some of the storage capacity compared to the PA. In my opinion, it depends what type of fisherman you are: what is your most common setting?...are you a guy or gal that carries a ton of gear and tackle? If you're a minimalist fisherman looking for a kayak that's easy to transport and gets the job done, you're probably more of a Revolution kind of angler. The Outback is sort of the middle ground between the Pro Angler and the Revolution. Worth taking a look at those too.

2. The PA can be loaded onto a roof rack by one person with the use of an accessory like the T-Loader from Rhino Rack (or something similar), but can be challenging depending on one's physical condition. I'm 155 lbs and 5'6" and can load the PA 14 into the back of my pickup truck by myself. I cart the kayak up to the tailgate, put the nose up on the truck bed and then slide it the rest of the way onto the bed by pushing from the back.

3. The stability difference between the PA and the Revo is quite significant. The PA is much wider, thus providing more flattened deck space and greater stability for an angler in the standing position. What you gain with the Revo is a more agile kayak that will probably be more efficient when paddling in choppy conditions or when surf launching/landing in challenging conditions. With that being said, we've launched the PA on plenty of 3' surf days.

Check out specs:

http://www.hobiefishing.com/mirage/mira ... -12/specs/
http://www.hobiefishing.com/mirage/mira ... -14/specs/
http://www.hobiefishing.com/mirage/mira ... -11/specs/
http://www.hobiefishing.com/mirage/mira ... -13/specs/
http://www.hobiefishing.com/mirage/mira ... ack/specs/

Hope this helps your decision.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2016 2:24 pm 
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One's a pedal kayak the other is a pedal boat.

The longer version of each wallows less as conditions get lumper. There is more to size than just carrying capacity.

If you are trying to choose between the two styles it is likely the outback is more for you


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 13, 2016 4:00 am 
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so is there any significant stability difference between PA and revo? if revo can perform general sea kayak fishing such as trolling and jigging I would go for revo. Can anyone tell me the actual difference from their experience ? Cheers.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 13, 2016 8:50 am 
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The Pro Angler is significantly more stable. It has much greater volume and width, with a flatter hull design. For example, I can stand and sight fish in the PA in ocean swell no problem but would have a problem doing that in the Revo. I like each kayak for their individual advantages, but they are so different that it's difficult to compare the two. If you're talking about stability alone, the PA wins.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 13, 2016 10:15 am 
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sdc99271 wrote:
so is there any significant stability difference between PA and revo? if revo can perform general sea kayak fishing such as trolling and jigging I would go for revo. Can anyone tell me the actual difference from their experience ? Cheers.


Depends on which stability your talking about, primary or secondary. Primary, usually the wider kayaks will be better, such as PA. Secondary, usually the more streamlined longer narrow kayaks will be better, thus my reference to preferring a Revo in unexpected foul weather.
The Revo can perform perfectly, trolling and jigging, out front. You just aren't going to be standing in it.
Recommend you go try them out at a dealer.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 13, 2016 2:30 pm 
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1. Try them at a dealer
2. Then try the Outback
3 if you were going camping, would you prefer an RV where you can bring everything, or a small pickup truck? You can camp with a pickup truck, and some people revel in the simplicity of it, and parking and driving is simpler, but then you look across at the guy in the RV with everything AND the kitchen sink and...how do you feel? Envious or still relieved at your simplicity/agility?

Disclaimer: I have a PA14 and an Outback (my wife's)


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 07, 2016 3:49 am 
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I have both a Revo 13 and a PA 14. They are very different kayaks. Yes, the Revo is lighter and easier to move around off the water, but still i am not carrying it very far. Before I got a truck, I car topped it and it was not an issue. You become proficient at leverage and finding ways to make the lifting easier. A Hobie cart is a huge asset when moving from car to water and vice versa. With the PA, i don't see how anyone can move that thing without a truck or trailer. Can it be done? Sure, but it's a big challenge. With a PA, a cart is no longer a nice-to-have, it is a must. I built a wood cart with wheels at truck bed level, so I minimize any heavy lifting. Roll on-roll off.

As for fishing? The PA excels in the flat water, inshore fishing I prefer - I can stand and sight cast, pole/paddle along while scouting for fish and the PA will carry everything you will ever possibly need. On the water, the PA is excellent. It is ideal for most of the fishing I do. But, the Revo is my boat of choice for the beach - it is easier to cart across the sand, launches easier and gets through the waves cleaner. You will get wet. The Revo is fast and stable enough - You aren't going to stand (for long) in the Revo. I really like both boats and plan to hang on to both of them. So, it depends on what kind of fishing you want to do...

Perhaps an Outback would be a compromise between the two.


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