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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2007 7:25 am 
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Hey Hobie-Sailors

I bought the Hobie 16 from the auction.
I've got it for 1700 dollar. The boat seems ok, no soft spots in the deck, just needs to be cleaned after the winter.
Its a 1994 and it was one of the Cats that was sponsored by hobie cat for the world championships in La Rochelle (France), so pretty good equipped.

The cat will get a new Mast, the seller said that its not perfectly upright (I couldn't see that).
He said I could chose if I want a normal Mast or one that can be divided into two parts.
Which one is the better one?

Can't wait to get it on the water :D .

Have a nice week
Chriss


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Congratulations. It sounds like you got a pretty good deal on that boat. I'd say 1700 is more than a fair price for a 94 16!

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Congratulations. It sounds like you got a pretty good deal on that boat. I'd say 1700 is more than a fair price for a 94 16!


As I said it was an auction and only I and another person were bidding, good for me, bad for the seller :wink: .

In the next time I'll probably get on your nerves with questions that come up :D .

@Doug: The Book you mentioned above, do you know what the shipping to europe costs? Because her the book costs more than twice as much than in the USA :!:

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Well, welcome to hobie sailing. I've only been sailing for a few years and only found this forum during the later part of getting to know the 16, which I am still doing all the time. This forum is really great. The people here are very friendly, experienced, and willing to help. It's also a great search tool for hobie information, it certainly beats google. But ask everything you need to ask, you'll be so suprised at the responsiveness of the people here.

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This forum is really great. The people here are very friendly, experienced, and willing to help. It's also a great search tool for hobie information, it certainly beats google. But ask everything you need to ask, you'll be so suprised at the responsiveness of the people here.


That was my first impression too, really great forum.
I also used the search option and I got some very good and usefull informations.

Unfortunately I probably won't get the Cat in the water until june, because I have some very important examinations coming up.
But then from June till the end of September (until university starts) I will be sailing every day :D .

By the way, does somebody knows where the Hobie Cats are built?

Chriss


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European boats are built in Toulon, France.

Boats are also built in South Africa, Australia, Brazil and the USA.


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Oh no I've got a French boat :lol: .

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You wouldn't want to race that cat anyway. It'll just give up everytime. :lol:


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Congratulations. It sounds like you got a pretty good deal on that boat. I'd say 1700 is more than a fair price for a 94 16!


As I said it was an auction and only I and another person were bidding, good for me, bad for the seller :wink: .

In the next time I'll probably get on your nerves with questions that come up :D .

@Doug: The Book you mentioned above, do you know what the shipping to europe costs? Because her the book costs more than twice as much than in the USA :!:

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Chriss


Chris:

I don't know about shipping. You will have to ask Rick. It should tell you when you go to figure the total. Add the CD and Book to cart at the same time. Probably cheaper that way.

http://store.catsailor.com/tek9.asp?pg= ... jnrorrrrg4

http://store.catsailor.com/tek9.asp?pg= ... =jqcmhpjpe

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About your mast question. I would choose the one piece mast. Less to do during setup and uniform bend characteristics over the entire length. Better chance of not filling up with water when you capsize (you will capsize eventually... it's fun). I'm sure others will chime in if they disagree.

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The two piece mast isn't even an option in the US. I wouldn't use one unless storage were an issue.


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Yesterday finally I picked up my new (old) Hobie Cat 16.
So far everything seems fine, except two points.

Is it normal that I can move a Hull a few cm until the other Hull starts to move. I've never had a Cat and it not seems to be very stiff, altough I couldn't dicover any soft spot in the deck.

My second problem concerns the rudders. To travel on the streets I took them off.
Over the metall rudder mountings there is a small plastic part. On one side I can push it downwards and when I leave it, it jumps back into it's normal position. So far so good. On the other side this plastic part is on its down position and doesn't jump back, also with all my strength I can't bring it back into the upper position.
What do I have to do?

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Is it normal that I can move a Hull a few cm until the other Hull starts to move. I've never had a Cat and it not seems to be very stiff, altough I couldn't dicover any soft spot in the deck.


This is very common on older boats and does not have anything to do with soft spots in the decks. It has everything to do with the fit of the pylons to the corner castings. Do a seach on this forum - there are several threads on how to correct / minimize it. If you don't plan to race, then I would not worry about it too much.

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Over the metall rudder mountings there is a small plastic part. On one side I can push it downwards and when I leave it, it jumps back into it's normal position. So far so good. On the other side this plastic part is on its down position and doesn't jump back, also with all my strength I can't bring it back into the upper position.
What do I have to do?


The black plastic parts are the rudder cams that lock your rudders in the down position. One of them is in the locked-down position. This thread:

http://www.hobiecat.com/community/viewtopic.php?t=467

will tell you how to deal with it.


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Thanks your great.

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This is very common on older boats and does not have anything to do with soft spots in the decks. It has everything to do with the fit of the pylons to the corner castings. Do a seach on this forum - there are several threads on how to correct / minimize it. If you don't plan to race, then I would not worry about it too much.


Actually I don't think I will race it very soon, but I don't like if things aren't perfectly working.

Probably I have to check again when the cat stands on the ground (right now its on the trailor).

Are new boats completely stiff, or they they move a little bit?

Are there simple ways to make it stiffer? Does it makes a difference if the mast is up?

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There are a few things that you can do to improve the stiffness of the boat. First and foremost, tighten your tramp. If you have an older hobie with an older tramp it is likely to use less grommets than the newer ones. More grommets equals more tightness more or less, but you should still be able to tighten it pretty good, do a search on that topic. One trick I learned here on the forum is to wet your line before you tighten your tramp, that way when it dries it will contract a bit making the tramp even tighter. Second, if that doesn't help, get a six pack of your favorite beverage, drink em down and then use the cans as shims in the corner castings to tighten them up. I'm hoping that the racers here on the forum will give their advice but this is what I've heard increases tightness on the boat. Technically you can order shims from hobie but it seems that the beer cans work just as well. Last resort you could epoxy the frame together, but that becomes a relatively permanant solution and is a one chance kind of thing. I think the best bet would be to post your question in a new topic and see what the more experienced have to say. I'm a rec sailor as of now and the racers would be able to help you much more than myself, but I can understand how you want to have everything perfect, I'm much the same way.

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