Need Parts for Hobie 16'

I just purchased a 1978 Hobie 16', and I thought everything was complete on the purchase, turns out it has NO Sidestays, or Forestay wires. Can anyone please tell me if you have these parts to sell, or if you can tell me the length, I can build some. I think they're 1/4 stainless wire, but I do not know the lengths. Also, I need to purchase a Nicropress, any suggestion where?

Can anyone tell me the best place to shop for Hobie cat parts at discounted prices?

Last, I read a lot about "soft-spots" when people describe their hobie's NOT having any "soft spots". The Hobie I purchased is soft on the deck and sides, but I suspect any boat of this age will be this way. I bought the boat with a trailer for $600.00, and wondering now if I made a mistake. The trampoline is old and has one small tear.

I would appreciate any help, for I and trying to get this boat running for the lake and the kids to experience some sailing.

Thank you!

Ed

I'm in the same boat Ed (Ha!).

I picked up a '79 for 700.00 and didn't realize until I started cleaning how much it was missing. All but one of the stays had frays, the tramp was in nice condition...until you put weight on it, the goose-neck was just a bolt and a few washers, and over the weekend I realized I have a broken rudder as well.

That's just a partial list, but you get the idea.

I have been ordering parts from 3 different retailers, and for the most part am happy with the price...well not happy, but all three are withing a buck or two of one another, so I don't feel as though I'm missing some super cheap outlet. A google search for "hobie parts" should give you the three I've been using (not sure if it's ok to list retailers on this forum or not).

The other resources I've been using a lot are craigslist and ebay. You will see many of the "consumable" hobie parts on ebay for a decent price, trams, stays, rigging, etc. Just look at the retailers, get an idea of the price and adjust accordingly for used. Every morning I do a craigslist.org search for "hobie". I'm in the midwest, landlocked, so very seldom does the search return anything, but I've picked up a couple items.

Another option is to check the hardware chains for parts. You need to be careful, but you can find hardware for a fraction of the cost of a marine shop. For instance, I picked up all my u-bolts to attach rollers to my trailer at HD for about 50 cents a piece, or I could have bought them at WM for about 4 bucks a piece. Now, I'm a weekend sailor in fresh water, and I can get by cutting a few corners, but its not worth it on safety items (my little disclaimer).

As for second guessing your decision, you need to put it in perspective. For example, it came with a trailer, that's a couple bones right there. How about the sails, are they in good shape? If so, that is another couple bones. Now, assuming the above is true, you can take off 400.00 from your 600.00 investment, that only leaves 200.00 for a whole boat, not a bad deal even if it needs work.

On the down side, I've salvaged what I could and I'm still looking at nearly 1400.00 invested in replacement parts on my 700.00 boat. Luckily for me this is a replacement for a 20' boat I sold this spring, so I have a bit of a "boat fund", otherwise, I'm sure I'd be divorced by now.

Good luck with your purchase, and don't sweat it, you'll be having a blast in no time.

Thank you very much for the quick reply. You're right, overall, not a bad purchase, although I thought I would be sailing the next weekend..LOL

My sails are okay, and the trampoline has one rip, so we shall see what happens when I put weight on it. I am still just cleaning it and trying to determine by priority what needs to be replaced. My rudders were wood and rotten, but my neighbor is making me news ones in a couple of days from oak. I would buy new fiberglass ones, but I suspect they cost about $100.00 ea. , maybe later.

I will google hobie parts and see what happens. I really the the 1/8 stainless wire and Nicropress. I am land-locked too in the mountains of Murphy, NC. As for marine parts around here, nothing!

Thanks again for the tips and if you can e-mail me off-line, I will get those placing you're buying parts from.

Thanks

Ed

Would you know the lengths for the Sidestay and Forestay Guide wires? I need these items bad, or to build some.

http://www.hcana.hobieclass.com/?Page=2169
May want to keep your eyes on craigslist for a 1980 or newer 16.
Have fun

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New glass rudders are $210 a piece (I think), Kevlar or Carbon $250 a piece.

I'm a cabinet maker, I know wood. I don't know about using a piece of oak for a rudder. Make sure he laminates the pieces together. i.e. nothing over an 1" wide. This will give it some stability as far as warpage goes. Also make sure he uses water proof glue. Titebond II doesn't work with water exposer. Oak is also very porous, although heavier I'd swing more for something like maple, or hickory. These are both closed grain woods. I would seal the snot out of them.

I know, wood has been used for rudders on all sorts of boats, just my opinion on this one. Not a good plan.

I just sold a complete rudder assemble for a 14 to a guy in New York for $40. Rudders, castings, X-bar the hole works. Deals are out there you just have to look.

Ed, I am in NC as well and could probally scrounge up everthing you need. Let me know.

Genmar, where in NC are you? I am located in Cherokee county, the western most county on the Tennessee line.

I need basically all the guide wires for the mast, forestays, stouds, etc. That should get me sailing, and then later I will have to do some more work. I found a new complete set of rigging costing $170.00, wow, to much for me right now...If you can help me e-mail me direct. Thanks

Ed

Welcome to the club! You'll fall in love with Hobie sailing!! In reguard to rigging just find a local Hobie dealer and get the right wires, please! Don't build them. I get at least 5 boats a year in the shop that lost a rig from guys that 'built their own wires'. Sounds like I'm selling you, huh? Ask the guy last year that broke his arm from a set of home built wires that gave way. Or the guy that built the shrouds too long and while raising the mast the base popped out and smashed his back window out. Or the guy whose boat sails faster on port. Maybe it's the extra 6" on that shroud. Woops. From what I've seen it's not worth it to use an uncalibrated swage tool for standing rig.
The amount that you'll spend on materials is about $10 less than getting the right wires from a Hobie...that's if you can find the 1X19 coated wire. It's not that common in the propper dimensions at the "Marine in a Box". And while you're at it change the anchor pins. That's where the majority of dismastings happen according to my informal data.
If it holds the mast in the air get the right parts, you'll be better off in the long run. There is a lot of load on the rig!!!
Never use the word 'scrounge' when talking about something as important as standing rigging!

Go here:
http://www.hobiecat.com/community/viewt ... gging+ebay
http://www.hobiecat.com/company/dealer.html

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Wait a minute. I completely apologize for the misinformation in my previous post! I just called my 'local marine retailer' and got an accurate current cost on 1X19 204 stainless wire in the propper diameter for the 16.
This is uncoated, they didn't have the coated stuff. it was $1.59 per foot. That means for a Hobie 16 shroud (21' +or- including thimble turn) a shroud will cost you :
$1.59 X 21= $33.39 For wire.
$4.29 X 2 = $8.58 For two bags of crimps (packs of 3, you need 4)
$2.39 X1 = $2.39 For Thimbles (bag of 3)
?? Your labor and research??
Total for 1 homebuilt H16 shroud $44.36
Hobie price is around $32
You save around $12 for going with something you know won't break and is the right length.

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I could not agree more, and I am taking your advice. I tried calling you today, but no answer at your shop. Just wanted to chat with you about my boat. I have had several really good responses from others in the forum with regards to parts they may have for me. I hope to locate what I need soon. Thanks for the advice!

All the best -

Ed

Call tomorrow. We're closed on Mondays (which in the summer time means we are doing paperwork. AAARRRGGG DMV!) .

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I realized today that the boat I purchased is missing the complete boom Gooseneck assembly. Does anyone have a used one for sale. Its a 1978 Hobie Cat 16'

Thank you

Ed

LOL, this is a chapter out of own book.

I have been meaning to post a picture of the "gooseneck" that was on the boat when I bought mine, I promise, its neither goose nor neck.

I ended up shopping around for this gem and after a couple un-won ebay auctions ended up buying one new.

It wasn't too bad, 53.00 + shipping. If you want to brave ebay, I set my bid at 35.00 which is the most I can justify paying for a used part, but kept comming up short.

I understand not paying that much. Its amazing how many things were missing on this boat and the owner will not make it up to me. The big lesson learned here is, next time I purchase a used boat I will request a "sea trial", or a dry run of all rigging in place. Do NOT trust what they tell you. Plus the guy who sold me the boat is a used car salesman....LOL!!

I was hoping that the hobie community here would have had many spare parts for sale.

This used boat of mine has been a real learning experience. I have not owned a Hobie for 29 years and thought I would have remembered most of what I had learned back then, but back then my boat was already rigged and I was not responsible for the rigging, etc.. my father did all that then. My two kids and the wife are mow laughing at me for buying this used boat, but on the bright side, I tell them look at how much we are learning about rigging, etc...

My next boat will be a new Hobie 16

Thanks for the reply

All the best -

Ed