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PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 11:43 am 
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As we speak! Lookey here an '05 FX-1
:arrow: http://www.hobiecat.com/community/viewtopic.php?t=7105

Karl, your tin cup inspired me so here's the plan...we get a sombrero and black, stick-on mustache (try not to let our lilly white skin show too much or color dark). Head to a street corner in an affluent shopping district. Hold up a cardboard sign stateing...

ONLY NEED $10 MORE TO
GET BACK HOME TO MEXICO


We should be sailing our FX's sometime next month :wink:

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 11:50 am 
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Not sure about ruling as I always race Hobie 17 the wings, BUT yes I think the wings would help a light crew The further you get the weight out the better chance you have of keeping the boat down. I know at 220 I need all the help I can get when I have the 78 sq ft reacher on the boat.

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17 is a cool boat for sure, but I still want an FX/one.


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http://www.hobie-cat.net/site_gb/?produits,hobie_fxone

Some info her, plus links to assembly guide and tuning manual.

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H17 rules: 6.1, The Hobie 17 shall be raced with wings.

John, I like your plan. You should run to N.J. and scoop it up once your sombrero can no longer hold anymore peso's. I don't want to drive that far, but it does look like a good price assuming its in the condition described.

Maybe I'll just put Wessels on the same street corner with a sign saying "please help my handicapped older brother". Give him an ice cream cone and a couple of valium he should do the trick quite nicely.


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New owner of an FX One hear, just got it. Switched from the Tiger.
Partially due to crew and also to get a lighter boat.

This boat will be in the North West( Seattle). I also hear there is anouther FX sold here in the NW (Canada).
I have heard Hobie has sold all the FX Ones they had in stock.

Is it time for this class/boat to take off?

How many are there racing in the US now? Does any other Divs have FXs starting? Might be into a road trip or two this year.

How about organizing an FX Event with the next Hobie Tiger National?

Anyone interested?

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mike hensel wrote:
I have heard Hobie has sold all the FX Ones they had in stock.

Mike, do you mean US Hobie dealers or Hobie EU?
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Is it time for this class/boat to take off?

I hope your right. I like the lighter boat reasoning.

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Alright, time to weigh in on this. I've been sailing my FX since 2005, and it's the funnest boat I've ever been on. Blasting in 20kts, solo, with the chute up is pretty incredible. I weigh a lot, like 240 and I can handle it in all wind conditions up to 20kts above that it's either sail conservatively or invite a friend. Which is the beauty of the boat, the hulls are full enough that you can have a friend on board. I've had 3 on board during a test sail with no problems. Once you smaller guys start getting them, I'm done for in anyhting less than 15kts. There are 3 on the beach here in SC and I sold a bunch of them last year, so I know there are atleast 10 on the west coast.

I took 4th to the beach at our annual Moss Landing Challenge, which is 13 miles in open ocean, downwind. There was a big swell running and I pitched 3 times, because the day before I powered up the rig and it frickin blew!
Here's the scenerio: Downwind, downswell, 23kts, solo, chute, 5-8' growndswell, up over wave with nothing but boards in the water, land on the back of the next wave, then nothing but bows in the water. Then me in the water. That's fun sailing!

I tried to pick off the tigers the whole time, but never were able to. Two well sailed Tigers finished a .5 mile ahead of me, and the other Tiger I almost had at the last minute, but it got light at the finish and I couldn't pick him off.

They ran my numbers wrong and I got 4th overall. They rated me as a Fox. Never sorted that out, nor do I care, that was the greatest day of sailing ever.

Just got my BAMA rating and will hopefully be doing the ditch run next year.

Tigers and 20's get me upwind. I think I might be a little too heavy to get the whole thing working efficiently. I don't mess with the rig settings too much. I think I need to add a second Fstay adj and rake a bit more, that's the next thing.

I am going to try to get mine up to the H16/20 NA's in July and let people take it for a spin. If not it's on the beach in Santa Cruz rigged and ready.

My only negative comment is that the rear crossbar slaps the water when it's really rough.

Here's the bottom line.
You should get one!

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Jeremy,

Any comments on the "out of stock" statement? Actually how popular are they in the EU?
Any fear of another "dead boat", ala 17, 18 and 20?

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The dealer here in Seattle said the boat he was getting shipped up here was the last FX available in the California wharehouse.

I just mentioned about them selling them out in Califonia, because it would be great to get together and sail if there are a bunch of boats out there.

Road trip to California?

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Hey John, Hopefully they won't discontinue the FX anytime soon. I think the 'out of stock' comment was that Hobie was waiting for another container from the EU.

I think that the FX is going to be a big thing in the future. It's a modern hull design, and people really seem to like the fact that you can sail 1 up or 2. I would like to see a carbon mast option, but the aluminum is proven and super durable. I can't stress how much fun the spi is!! The alternative in this niche is the 17. Cool boat, but 30 year old hull and sail plan design, no spin. The FX isa smarter design from a manufacturer's point of view. They use many of the same fittings as the Tiger. Crossbars, etc.

With what I've seen in the Aclass sales lately the singlehand boat market is thriving, albeit the aclass is a differend beast all together. I market the FX as a "durable" Aclass- like cat with a chute. I've had mine on the beach and it's tough!! A's don't tough sand...ever!

One other negative that I thought about last night is that if you are beach landing and the sterns get lifted at all, the way the bows are shaped will stick you in the sand like a fork. Whatever, you win some and you lose some. I'd rather have the bows just like they are. Once you get them hooked up they create lift like you wouldn't believe. And they cut through the chop like butter. Dang! I've got to go sailing!

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Surf City Catamarans wrote:
It's a modern hull design, and people really seem to like the fact that you can sail 1 up or 2.
How would you propose incorporating that in to the HCANA rules for racing?
Any consensus out there on a two-up, double trapeze class proposal?
Obviously with the self tacking jib.
Race with or without spin?
What minimum crew weight?
Without rack/wing option?
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I would like to see a carbon mast option, but the aluminum is proven and super durable.
Oh now you're scaring me, I'm on a shoestring racing budget :(

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I think the best thing for this class would be to keep the options open, like the wings. With or with out. With or with out spin. With or with out jib. Crew hurt you in weight, but help in so many areas if they're good. So that would probably have to be something that is regulated. I'd preffer it stay a single hand boat.

If you were to load one up with all the options and pay full retail its about $17k without a trailer. Thats still dirt cheap compared to most of the high tech boats our there. A new maerstom tornado is $30k, no sails, no spendy tilt trailer included. You'd have close to 40 grand into it even before getting it wet.

This thread needs to stop before I do something expensive. I don't need another boat in my yard, and I can't sell the 16 or the 14 before nationals next year.


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Hey Karl,
You did see this right?

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 0705327700

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Thats the video I watched about twenty times at least. How much wind was there durring that shoot?

That was quite the jibe with the spin. Wire to wire no less.

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