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PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 3:41 pm 
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Sorry, I have posted this in the fishing section. Since I am a newbie.
I need your expert opinon on wether to buy a Hobie revoltion or the Adventure. I ma 6.3 and 225lb. I eard the REV is wetter ride than the Advanture. is this correct?. I will be wishing in the bay calmer water as well the surf. The third question is there any diffrence between the 07 model versus the coming 08 model?. hen the 08 model are avialiable to purshase.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 5:32 pm 
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Hi Joe and welcome to the forum.

Being longer and lower, the Adventure is the wetter of the two.

There has been a lot posted on this subject if you care to scroll through the many topics here. Here is one you might start out with -- just one person's opinion. 8)

http://www.hobiecat.com/community/viewtopic.php?t=6729


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 4:34 am 
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Joe, I tried both the Revo & Adventure. I'm 6'4" 240, the Revo pedals hit the front of the cockpit when pedaling. The Adv. has about 1 & 1/2" more length in the cockpit, and didn't max out. It depends on your inseam. Try them both before you buy. If the Revo would have fit me I would have purchased, got the Adv. fits perfect. I posted on this futher down the page.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 4:38 am 
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Oops. the post was on Kakakfishing stuff sorry!
http://kfs.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/ ... 8111096014


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 Post subject: Revo and big guys
PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 10:42 am 
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Hi...

I have a Revo and love it, but frankly, it's just too small for me; I'm 6'4" and about 235 pounds. Leg extension is a little short but I can live with that; the problem is that I am always sitting in a puddle and have a VCG (vertical center of gravity) that is too high for the hull stability curve. I thus have come to consider the Sidekicks essential in anything other than flat water; I've done a few crossings and some sailing without them, but it's nerve-wracking and requires active management. The Sidekicks solve that problem (I love them), but it's still very wet. When I'm out with my friend in an identical boat, she bobs around like a cork and can recover from an abrupt 45-degree heel in a beam sea... at that point, I would be taking a cold Puget Sound swim.

In a non-pedal kayak this would of course be a non-issue, as paddling takes care of dynamic stability even without deliberate bracing. I've tried that while pedaling the Revo, but lower-body coupling to the boat is way too loose and it also eliminates rudder control.

I'm about to buy an AI for this reason, but have not actually tried one yet... any comments from people of similar scale? It will be harder to handle off-water, but I suspect it is much more suitable for a big guy. (Besides, I'm a trimaran junkie and just sold my Corsair 36... I need an AI!)

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 Post subject: Re: Revo and big guys
PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 4:27 pm 
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Microship wrote:
Hi...

I have a Revo and love it, but frankly...I am always sitting in a puddle...
I'm about to buy an AI for this reason, but have not actually tried one yet...
Hi Steve - you should have read my past notes about "wet butts and the AI." Revo and AI are for smooth waters unless you like sitting in water. While the Outback is not a speedster, it will take the extra weight and when most sit-in kayakers are wearing spray skirts to stay dry, I'm still sitting high and dry in the Outback. When the seas get choppy and regular kayakers start getting a look of fear in their eyes because they are worried about capsizing, I'm cruising along with no worries at all. The Outback is about as stable a kayak as you'll ever find in rough seas. It also handles more weight. Even though it is only 12' long, I'm running in the next to the last notch on the hobie drive - with a 36" inseam. You really ought consider your priorities before getting an AI. Stability-comfort-dry in the Outback compared to less stable, not as comfortable, and suffering wet butt syndrome all the time in the AI.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 6:48 pm 
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Get the Adventure. I am 6'2" 220 and it is comfortable. I actually have extra leg room with a 36" inseam. Have experienced "Wet Butt" in more than one kayak. Kayaking is a water sport.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 1:21 pm 
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I agree with Rynkster...I stay TOTALLY dry in my Outback and if you need stability with weight bearing capacity, the Outback is a great fit.

Yes, kayaking is a water sport but that does not mean you should have a wet behind while fishing or just cruising. My brothers have an Adventure and a Revolution and although they do not experience the hull slap that I get, I do not experience the wet butt that they get.

Good luck with your decision...and as many have said, try the different models out for size and comfort before opening your wallet.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 4:43 pm 
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Thanks for the thoughts, folks! I'm pretty sure I'll get the AI... I'm a multihull geek, and that's what keeps catching my eye. I do love the Revo/Sidekick combo, and mostly wanted to know what to expect with ride dryness on the larger boat. It'll be worth it, I'm sure!

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 12:40 pm 
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I'm 6'4", weigh in at 99 kilos (reads better than 220lbs) and have a 34" inseam. I fit both the Outback and the Revo. I like the Revo lots more than the Outback exept for some small stuff. I go further faster in the Revo and its stability seems to me to be better. Not so much primary but a whole lot more secondary.

I have found that taking waves abeam requires that the fins be up against the hull when the max roll is attained so I can slide down the face or I trip on the fins and dump. It has all been in getting used to pedaling and not having the paddle in hand to brace.

I bought side kicks for the Outback (05 model) and transferred them to the Revo. Used them once! On the water twice a week at least since getting the hull. THAT alone should say something. :)


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