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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 8:27 am 
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Karl Brogger wrote:
Planer is a 15" spiral head.


This year I upgraded my 15" planer and 8 jointer with Byrd Shelix cutter heads- boy are they nice!!! Do you frequent any of the online WW forums, like WoodCentral, Sawmill Creek, or WoodNet? I read those, but frequent The Wood Works, and NC Woodworker most often.


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I haven't had any exposer to the heads with all the little insert cutters, but but I'm sure it does as well if not better than a spiral cut head with three knives. I was shocked the first time I ran anything through the little planer I have. It's one of the best purchases I have made in the shop. Only problem wiith it is I can't find anyone to sharpen the knives. At $90 a set it gets expensive piece of maintanence.


The only forums I visit are this one, and catsailor. My normally sunny disposition goes right out the door when its work related. :evil: I don't know if I'd have the stomach to tollerate some of the idiotic techniques, designs, and just overall b.s. that would go with it. There are a hundred different ways to sail a boat. There's about a billion ways to build something out of wood, and most of them are no better than the other. Woodworking ceased to be fun when I started collecting a check from it. Pride used to drive me to keep going, but now I'm thinking I want a different job. Managing is crushing my will to live.


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Karl,

Interesting comment you made about things changing when you started collecting money for doing something. When I was in high school I loved electronics and that and sailing and RC model airplanes were my hobbies. So naturally I went to university and became an electrical engineer specializing in electronics. Within a couple of years of graduating I heard myself say "the best way to ruin a hobby is to turn it into a career". Now my hobbies are woodwork and sailing and antique sports cars.

Given what happened to me my guess is you will be taking up electronics :)


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Karl Brogger wrote:
It's one of the best purchases I have made in the shop. Only problem with it is I can't find anyone to sharpen the knives. At $90 a set it gets expensive piece of maintanence.


I'm hoping that with four carbide edges per insert it will be a long time before I need to buy new inserts.

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Woodworking ceased to be fun when I started collecting a check from it. Pride used to drive me to keep going, but now I'm thinking I want a different job. Managing is crushing my will to live.


I have a friend in N. VA who is starting to feel the same way. He left a decent job with the Gov't three years ago to do WW full time. While he is making about the same $ (except for retirement and health benefits) as time goes on he is enjoying it less and less. Between, travel, working on the Hobie, and sailing the Hobie, I did little WW this Summer.


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I'm almost 27 so there is alot of options for what I can do. The only real issue is that I really don't want to do anything. Haul my boat to the lake. Sail my boat at the lake. Sit on the couch. Those are about the only things I really want to do. Winning the lottery is my only real option for obtaining those goals. :cry:


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Well, it is not as provacative looking with the boat on the trailer. From this angle, you can't even see it-

(notice what the tannin in NC rivers has done to my hulls . I guess it's time to break out the "Barkeepers Friend")

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But visible from this angle. Oh, and it turns out 12" diameter is about right. Any larger and it would likely hit the dolphin striker when opening. And if I hadn't remounted my cross bars under the frame there would be less room. Then I guess I could have slung one or two Storpedos on each side under the cross bars as long as they wouldn't make it too wide- PT-16!!! :lol: :lol: Talk about provacative! :roll:

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And this one- more so if I add fins and a propeller

(one reason I held off was to see how it fit- how far it would stick out the back. No problem!! Plenty of room for fins and a propeller. :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Try Iron Out to get rid of the stains. It works awesome. No scrubbing, I mix 1/4 - 1/2 a cup in a 5gal bucket and just apply it with a sponge and rinse it off. You'll want to wax the boat right after, it seems to strip everything off.


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Karl i feel your pain. I invest a buck in my future happiness every week in the hopes of everlasting sailing.

Unfortunatly its been back to work every time so far.

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Use warm water with the Iron Out and a nose plug. That (censored) stinks.


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I'm not worthy. I made a simple box. 10'x12"x24" box out of 3/8" ply with some 2"x2" corner blocks with two pins on one end and hasps on the other to lock down the top. It fits just about everything from boom to mainsail, spinnaker, fishing rod and tackle box, rudders, tiller extension and crossbar, boat hook, life jackets and oh yeah, my Honda 2 hp outboard. Coming off the trailer the dolphin striker clears the top by 3/4".
It also supports the mast brace to unload the crossbars for hull expansion with the mast down (H21SE).
I caulked it up tight with urethane caulk, drilled some drain holes and put some hasps on the stern. I just slide it open from either end and pull it shut on the pins at the far end and lock the hasps. I put a slight arch in the top so it would drain. Ordinary house paint and ss bolts have worked great for three years now. Its no art piece but it only took a few hours to build in the driveway and keeps my stuff neatly out of harm's way. I don't have any illusions about the security of 3/8 plywood but out of sight is most of the story where I leave the boat.


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Aschaffter, I went to "Furgusons Water Works" in Annapolis today, picked up my 12" X 14' SDR35 tube. Price increased to $122.15 (With discount) plus our new 6% sales tax to the peoples republic (Total $129.48).

Anyway, how did you cut that pipe all the way down the middle so straight? I also plan on cutting 1 or 2 foot off it. How did you make these cuts so clean? What did you use? I plan on using a jig saw but it looks like you may have used something else. Any advice?

Also, since you've done the project do you have any pointers or anything you may have done different?

...Yeah, I was going to do this over the winter but didn't get around to it! Since we have a slide in camper for the truck we really need the sail tube now....And so it begins!

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Boy are you lucky I am still watching this thread! :D :D

Ah, Annapolis, I spent the longest four years of my life there- yup, I was educated at that "trade school on the shores of the Severn River" where everybody wears the same clothes. :lol: :lol: Of course the training I received and working for my "Uncle" for 22+ years allowed me to retire young and have time to sail a Hobie.

To cut it to length. Take piece of brown paper or poster board (even newspaper will work) and wrap it around the tube. Once the edge overlaps and is aligned over your mark, trace the edge with a pencil and it will give you a perfect line around the circumference. I used a jig saw with a very fine toothed blade to cut it, but a circular saw will work- just be sure to raise the blade. Files and a disc or belt sander may be needed to clean up the edges.

Cutting it lengthwise- First you need to mark where you want to cut. Brace the tube on a flat surface and lay a long, straight (1 X 4) board next to it to serve as a guide to help you draw a line the full length of and parallel to the axis of the tube. Then measure half way around each end from your line to mark the ends of and draw the other cut line- if you want it cut exactly in half. I think if I make another one, I will make it with higher sides and a smaller top. I think I used a jig saw to (carefully) make these two cuts, but again, a circular saw will work also. The key to a straight line is to use a guide or fence for the saw. I used a 10' length of 1 X 4 which I clamped to each end of the tube and used that to guide the saw.

The lip is 1/4" thick PVC trim or lattice(?) strip that I got at Lowes. It is attached with PVC cement and screws.

The end pieces were made from ply, which was cheaper than PVC or other similar materials. If you use ply, use exterior grade and seal it well. I used urethane glue and screws to attach the ends.

I may eventually put a small dehumidifier (available on Ebay) in it because moisture condenses on the inside at night. So they don't mildew, I currently remove sails, PFDs, towels, etc. from the tube when I get home. Since I have occasionally backed the trailer in the water too far and partially filled the tube, I drilled a few drain holes in the aft end of the bottom half of the tube. I angled them aft so water on the road wouldn't splash up into the tube. I may also add some sort of open weave (narrow strips of Dri-deck?) plastic/vinyl flooring in the tube so nothing rests on the bottom of the tube. Additionally, I may add ram air vent holes somehow so that rain or road water can't get in them.

I couldn't find cheap SS piano hinge so I used nickel plated hinge I got at Lowes, and painted it. I used SS wood screws to attach the hinge. Be carefull that your screw tips don't come through on the inside of the tube and if they do grind the tips off- you don't want to rip your sails, PFD, hands, etc. PVC taps easily so you can also use SS machine screws to attach the hinges and other fittings. I used some nice SS spring catches I had around my shop to keep the tube closed. I will replace the cheap utility handles, they bend too easily from the weight of the tube.

I haven't made a new fiberglass "warhead" to replace the one I turned from MDF. It is is too heavy and the MDF absorbs moisture, so I will eventually replace it.

Best of luck.

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Dildo-pedo? I mean storepedo, my bad. Yeah.

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Thanks! I'll be working on it this weekend (Along with opening the pool, finishing the tiki bar, yard work, yada, yada, yada).

I often kick myself for not getting the big picture when I was young and trying to get into that "trade school" down there. I've always excelled in the smartz department. I have 26 years at the local Power Company (Been here since I was 17 in twelth greade)... Except for nine months leave of absence for Naval Boot Camp and Gunners Mate A School up there in sunny warm Waughkegan Ill (September - June 1984-1985). I then spent the remaining of the 6 years in the Reserves at Baltimore doing "wet weekends" at Little Creek Amphibious Base in Va. with the Beachmasters. We have an electrical substation down at that "trade school" when I go there I really feel the regret of not applying myself further...Not that I'm doing bad now, as a matter of fact we live very comfortably, so who knows....

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Dildo-pedo? That's awesome! I think I saw the chick that likes that thing on Springer once.


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