Return to Hobie.com
Hobie Forums
It is currently Thu Sep 11, 2025 1:30 pm

Board index » Hobie Catamaran Sailing » Hobie 16

All times are UTC - 8 hours [ DST ]



Post new topic Reply to topic  Page 1 of 1
  [ 15 posts ] 
  Print view Previous topic | Next topic 
Author Message
waldorf
 Post subject: tramp lacing
PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 5:54 pm 
Offline
Site Rank - Admiral

Joined: Sat Dec 29, 2007 6:37 pm
Posts: 189
Location: Sechelt, BC, Canada... Sunshine Coast
This year i have to re-lace my tramp... it is now laced with shock cord...
any comments on what is best??? and what weight of line and how much stiffer the boat is with line instead of the Shock Cord?????

_________________
•Present boat -1998 Hobie 16 Solana Sails furling jib[/size]
Image
Top
 Profile  
 
sunvista
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 5:49 am 
Offline
Site Rank - Old Salt

Joined: Mon Sep 19, 2005 10:18 am
Posts: 778
Location: Virginia Beach VA
I tried shock cord for a couple seasons but it is expensive and doesn't last very long (frays and chafes). If you have a very old vinyl tramp then shock cord will give (stretch) and help prevent rips and grommet pulls.
Top
 Profile  
 
J_Eaton
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 6:02 am 
Offline
Site Rank - Old Salt

Joined: Thu Oct 25, 2007 7:04 am
Posts: 818
Location: Clinton Lake Kansas
use 1/4" yacht braid, or something low-stretch, and then follow instructions by Matt Miller from an older thread

Quote:
Better than that...

On a 14 or 16 you can "pre-bend" the sidebars before tensioning the center lace. We do not use double grommets down the center and get tight tramps without a huge effort.



Use the mainsheet system. Lay the blocks and line on the tramp "unsheeted" from side to side bar... in the center. Add a line to the base of the blocks that can reach around the sidebar, under the tramp and meet the top block. Tie off. Pad the side bars with some cardboard where the line goes around the sidebars. Sheet the system to bend the sidebars in by over 1". We sheet till the tramp gets a little pucker shape along the sidebar. Cleat the blocks and tighten the tramp using moderate tension. Using the vise grips, dowell or just holding the line at each grommet as you go. Tension the aft lace last and then release the block set.

We use this system and get over 1-2 inches of prebend in the bars for over 1 inch after releasing.

Worst loads on a grommet are during tensioning each one... this saves effort and grommets.
_________________
Matt Miller
Hobie Cat USA
Image

_________________
Sheet In...Max Out
www.fleet297.org
sailflatlands at gmail dot com
Top
 Profile  
 
sunvista
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 12:31 pm 
Offline
Site Rank - Old Salt

Joined: Mon Sep 19, 2005 10:18 am
Posts: 778
Location: Virginia Beach VA
Never thought of pre-tensioning side rails. Great idea. I think I'll try it with a ratcheting tie-down strap.
Top
 Profile  
 
mmiller
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 1:19 pm 
Offline
Site Admin

Joined: Tue May 27, 2003 12:44 pm
Posts: 15090
Location: Oceanside, California
Well... you learn when rigging up to 64 boats at one time!

Image

_________________
Matt Miller
Former - Director of Parts and Accessory Sales
Warranty and Technical Support
Hobie Cat USA
(Retired 11/7/2022)
Top
 Profile  
 
Whistlerboy02
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 7:01 pm 
Offline
Site Rank - Captain

Joined: Wed Apr 04, 2007 9:48 am
Posts: 36
Location: Canada
Matt sometimes I am jealous you get to sail all day.... but when i look at that picture above.... i dont think i would want your job anymore... that looks like alot of work... unless the Hawian Tropic girls were helping you that day and you just cant see then in the picture
Top
 Profile  
 
waldorf
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 8:59 pm 
Offline
Site Rank - Admiral

Joined: Sat Dec 29, 2007 6:37 pm
Posts: 189
Location: Sechelt, BC, Canada... Sunshine Coast
thanks for the tips.... i will try the line this time... and see if the boat is tighter ......

_________________
•Present boat -1998 Hobie 16 Solana Sails furling jib[/size]
Image
Top
 Profile  
 
Cayuga
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 5:41 am 
Offline
Site Rank - Captain

Joined: Wed Feb 27, 2008 6:56 am
Posts: 42
Location: Seneca Falls, NY
You might want to use a tramp tighter in addition to the blocks, does help to preload the lacing before you release the blocks.

http://www.thebeachcats.com/OnTheWire/h ... /tip21.htm
Top
 Profile  
 
mmiller
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 9:10 am 
Offline
Site Admin

Joined: Tue May 27, 2003 12:44 pm
Posts: 15090
Location: Oceanside, California
Whistlerboy02 wrote:
Matt sometimes I am jealous you get to sail all day.... but when i look at that picture above.... i dont think i would want your job anymore... that looks like alot of work... unless the Hawian Tropic girls were helping you that day and you just cant see then in the picture


Nope... no Hawaiiann Tropic Girls. Actually... little if any sailing for the crew during these Worlds regatta trips. We don't test sail the boats or anything. That shot was from New Caledonia. There was the ocassional topless french woman near by though!

_________________
Matt Miller
Former - Director of Parts and Accessory Sales
Warranty and Technical Support
Hobie Cat USA
(Retired 11/7/2022)
Top
 Profile  
 
gthomas
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 9:50 am 
Offline
Site Rank - Old Salt

Joined: Tue May 27, 2003 3:16 pm
Posts: 302
Location: San Diego
Quote:
There was the ocassional topless french woman near by though!


That was almost 7 years ago Matt and I think you may have forgotten the reality of that sight. It sounds pretty good now but at the time I think we were washing our eyes out with soap. :shock:

_________________
Greg Thomas
Hobie Factory Team
Top
 Profile  
 
mmiller
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 11:12 am 
Offline
Site Admin

Joined: Tue May 27, 2003 12:44 pm
Posts: 15090
Location: Oceanside, California
Ok, so they were older french women. I liked my memory better!

_________________
Matt Miller
Former - Director of Parts and Accessory Sales
Warranty and Technical Support
Hobie Cat USA
(Retired 11/7/2022)
Top
 Profile  
 
Sail Revolution
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 10:26 pm 
Offline
Site Rank - Old Salt

Joined: Wed Jul 21, 2004 7:46 pm
Posts: 1457
Location: Santa Cruz
mmiller wrote:
Ok, so they were older french women. I liked my memory better!


Remember G, Matt's got a couple of years on us!

J
Top
 Profile  
 
Skipshot
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 11:06 pm 
Offline
Site Rank - Old Salt

Joined: Wed Jul 06, 2005 2:15 pm
Posts: 1199
Location: Oakland, CA
Surf City Catamarans wrote:
mmiller wrote:
Ok, so they were older french women. I liked my memory better!


Remember G, Matt's got a couple of years on us!

J

Age or poor memory, it doesn't matter; I like Matt's memory, too. Don't burst the fantasy bubble.
Top
 Profile  
 
MUST5429
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 7:27 am 
Offline
Site Rank - Old Salt

Joined: Sat Aug 25, 2007 6:20 am
Posts: 522
Location: Denver, Colorado
It was a GREAT story :)
till SOMEBODY had to hose it all up with the Details. :cry:

Somebody go slap Greg ! :P

S

_________________
If the grass is greener on the other side of the fence, maybe it is time to water your own lawn.
Top
 Profile  
 
aussiebob
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 6:30 pm 
Offline
Site Rank - Captain

Joined: Fri Sep 19, 2008 8:49 pm
Posts: 69
Location: dana point
Speaking of topless which should be legal here, check out the land down under.great sailing, double bonus,later aussie bob.
Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  Page 1 of 1
  [ 15 posts ] 

Board index » Hobie Catamaran Sailing » Hobie 16

All times are UTC - 8 hours [ DST ]

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest

You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum

Jump to:  
© Hobie Cat Company. All rights reserved.
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group