Best Sailing movies?

Blimey Aledal, I love my AI, but a well found sea kayak has to be one of the safest craft around. Your center of balance is far lower in a traditional kayak than a S.O.T. Sit on Tops are in my view a bit dangerous...but maybe a bit off topic!

What? So you are saying you feel safer in a traditional style kayak? In open rolling waters?

That makes no sense to me.

If you were in a hurricane or with small craft warnings where would you plead to be?
For Christs Sake -let me quote Pirate who said...

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pirate"quote" (he said :etc) and I quote.
"All boats are into the future. With new designs. Lower centers of gravity from being propelled from below whilst sucked down into the water whilst we hold on to our handles that Aledal made. Braving the inlets."
Thats what he said.

I swear.

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Its a long long road-from witch there is no return
Whilst we`re on the way -to there why not share?
And the load?
Doesnt drag me down...

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Aledal, (my not so heavy brother )
Here is a link to Andrew McAuley's epic and ultimately tragic trip. If you explore the site you will see the logistics of his voyage. He made a small pull up canopy which allowed him to sleep full length inside his slightly modified sea kayak. To access his provisions stored in the front hatch he had to enter the water and this along with his mental state may have contributed to his death only 80kms from his destination.
http://www.andrewmcauley.com/

This wiki entry gives a good overview and mentions the excellent TV documentary 'Solo Lost at Sea' that gives a great insight into what may have happened:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_McAuley

Your spot on Aledal. I stated exactly that to the National Press only last year. I only added I'd file the edges off Aledal's sharp handles.... Pirate

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Oh, 100 times safer, COG much lower I mean your ass is all but below waterline in a sea kayak, Sit on tops by their very nature are much more prone to being flipped in a beam sea, COG way high, cant roll them if they do flip. I have got in my sea Lion and paddled it to Malaysia (open rolling sea for sure!) from Phuket and then in the other direction right up to the Burmese border....I have messed up and run into line squalls and been way out of sight of land worrying about trusting my compass....boats always turned up trumps....Sea kayaks have been around a millenium, people cross oceans in them. Theres only one weak link in a sea kayak and thats the guy doing the paddling...HOWEVER, I'm lousy at fishing out of them and wouldnt trade my AI for anything! The sit on top is the finest fishing platform you will ever get.

If I were in a hurricane where would I plead to be????......about as far away from the sea as possible, terra firma.

This thread is so far off-topic that it is almost out of sight - perhaps there is scope for a section about small-boat matters in general, rather than Hobie-specific.

My knowledge of Kayaking is almost non-existent, but I reckon it has similarities with skating and bike-riding.

Skaters, Cyclists and Kayakers all have a fairly 'static' physical connection with their chosen means of transport, and they all mainly use semi-instinctive movements of their hips and upper body in order to maintain balance. In the case of the Kayaker, it is also the upper body which provides the forward driving force, whereas Skaters and Cyclists use their legs. The Kayaker can also use the flat paddle blade to help stay upright.

The ability of the (experienced) Kayaker to recover from a fall by simply rolling back up again is unique, and that is what makes Kayaking safe out there in the open sea.

That is also why I believe that it is slightly inaccurate to describe the Hobie Mirage set-up as a Kayak, but neither would I call it a Bike, or a Pair of Skates!

Ditch

Similarly, the best cure for sea-sickness is to go sit under a tree!

Ditch

and get struck by lightning!!! On the roll front, yes you can roll a kayak but beware the conditions that flipped you in the first place because your rolling right back into them, and fair chance your going to go over again. On a calm day in flat water I could do about 4-6 rolls out in the middle of the ocean in inclement conditions maybe 2-3...I dunno havent been there yet...If you have to roll chances are there was something you could have done earlier that might have lessened your chances of finding yourself in that particular situation...anyway your right I am way off topic...maybe a new subject Sea kayaks vs Sit on Tops bound to get everyone going!!!!!!

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Sure-granted-an "EXPERIENCED" kayaker is safe in deep water as long as he doesnt screw up his roll. But suppose he does? Suppose virtigo/fatigue or just plain fear hit him?
You may be "top heavy" with a "Sit on Top" but not only can you throw your legs over the side and into the water you can lean your upper torso down and into the direction of the wave.Both these actions make it extremely difficult to be knocked off-especially with custom handles. See "Balancing Act".

Also keep in mind the Mirage Drive itself propels the boat forward from BELOW the boat. Close to the center of the length. It actually pulls the boat down into the water at part of its cycle.It just doesnt get any better than that guys! A low center of gravity. I took my Outback out in "small craft warning" weather many times and have never fallen off.
Thanks for the movie tip Phil-Im watching it now. True BBC stuff. Hard to understand the accents but I like it so far!

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Your spot on Aledal. I stated exactly that to the National Press only last year. I only added I'd file the edges off Aledal's sharp handles.... Pirate[/quote]
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Go fail a pin yuh bastard

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Aledal, if you want to quote someone, just click on the quote button in the bottom right hand corner of their message. A new message window will appear, with their quoted text at the top, appropriately formatted. Then you just type your reply under that text and submit.


There is no doubt a sit on top is safer for an inexperienced kayaker, but you shouldn't take a sea kayak out to sea until you are experienced and competent. A sea kayak in the hands of an expert operator is a thing of beauty and incredibly versatile.


The Hornblower series is taken from a series of novels by C.S. Forester, who was born in England, but spent the second half of his life in the U.S. They are set in the time of the Napoleonic wars, when Lord Horatio Nelson was admiral of the fleet - hence the name Horatio. Hornblower is fairly typical of a lot of archaic English surnames of the period like Winterbottom and Butterworthington, so I guess Forester was trying to convey a sense of the period. By the way, the books are a really good read.

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Thanks Chrisj. I understand the reversal.Very clever. So you`re saying if two equally experienced kayakers went out in dangerous waters the sea kayaker would prevail. You-Phil-or Ditch should open a new topic.I know Pirate would side with me.


Well maybe not Pirate.

Slaughter and Road Runner would.

Maybe not Slaughter.

Road Runner would. He liked my handle design.

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