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PostPosted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 3:51 pm 
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Bob L. wrote:
I started off using the plug in type on kayaks and cracked the plastic twice. That's when I switched to Wheelez, which is a cradle style cart and floation wheel. I have two sets now and have never had a problem with them. I solved the ama and width issue by using a styrofoam block. The type used to haul a canoe on the car top. I snap one on each rear aka where in would contact the hull. I holds the ama off the sides and wheels roll free. I rarely fold mine in though. As a mentioned earlier, I'm using two sets now for the AI and its like pulling a wagon. Almost effortless doing down the beach, going up there's no lifting the bow just the pull through the sand.


really? the cart caused cracks in the hull?

What Kayak and cart model was it please?

Do you fit the carts all by yourself and how long does that take?

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 4:01 pm 
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I don't know the brand, bought them from the kayak dealer. Both have been sold. The Wheelez are very easy to use, they have a leg that folds down and keeps the cradle level. I just set the boat on, strap it down and go.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 9:45 pm 
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Bob L. wrote:
I'm using two sets of the Wheel-Ez wheels to transport my AI accross the beach. I strap them under the front and rear aka's, using the aka crossbar on the deck to hold them in place. It's much easier to pull the boat, no lifting the hull and digging through the sand. I just lift up slightly on the bow to change directions.

Hmm - maybe this is the answer to the problem :roll:
Any photos Bob :?:

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 10:29 pm 
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I'm going to Mexico next Friday and will be there through the following week. I'll take a few pictures and post them here. We stay on the beach and I leave the AI sitting on them when not in the water. Wheelez offers an option for two crossbars that connect to the front and back of the cradle, four pins to remove.. The crossbars come with about a two thick and 10 in long piece of foam on them. It kinda make a fore and aft runner about 12 inches apart. That's about the width of the rounded center keel on the bottom of the AI. They nice to set the boat on, never had a denting problem. I only have that on one set, it works ok without them too. They cost about $20 for the pair. I thought about buying two pieces of the aluminum 5 ft long and the foam to contect the front an rear set. Never did it though. A single set of Wheelez good too, works best if you put them under the center of gravity is, that takes the weight off the bow handle. A single set can be easly disassembled and stored below deck under front hatch.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 12:47 am 
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The Kayak hull that cracked from the plug-in wheels was a Cobra Tourer.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 11:46 pm 
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Did Reconlon ever get the Hobie Trax 2 wheels? Any reviews? I'm considering getting some because my old wheelz cart that has wheels with plastic hubs finally gave out. The metal center to the plastic hubs finally rusted out.

Interested to hear some reviews or new solutions!


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 12:41 am 
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I received the Trax 2 cart but have not had a chance to use it yet. It barely doesn't fit stowed in the AI front hatch. I can get all but about 1 1/2" of one of the scupper pipes to clear going into the hatch. I may try to modify the cart, but I'll wait till my TI arrives to see how the fit is on the TI.

I have tried the new wheels on the older cart, and they fit and work fine. I like the pneumatic rubber tires best, they are best on all but sand. The new Wheelz tires are better than the old smaller Wheelz tires.

Also, there is or will be a pneumatic rubber tire version of the Trax 2 also (recommended for the TI).

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 12:50 am 
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Cool thanks, yeah I was going to get the beach tire version, I figured that would be the easiest. I never take my wheels with me, so if I did have to I would do that trick and just plug them into the scupper holes behind me with the wheels up in the air while sailing.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 1:57 am 
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Hmm, interesting, that you found the new polyfoam tyres not so good on sand as i was assuming a larger diameter and tyre width to be automatically better, however it may be as with bicycles that they still cant make a non-pneumatic tyre that performs as well as air-filled one.

I still dont have my wheel upgrade as my Hobie guy is waiting for the the new carts and tyres to arrive so in light of new info that may be a good thing.

I'll be looking for that Pneumatic option for sure.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 9:32 am 
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Are the Pneumatic tires the balloon tires that are good for the sand?


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 9:38 am 
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Sorry, that didn't come out right! :oops:

I like the pneumatic rubber tires best, on all but sand. The Wheelz tires are better only on sand than the rubber tires.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 9:49 am 
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This is too confusing....can someone link to what I should buy if I want tires that perform well in the sand and support the weight of the AI fully loaded?

These seem like they would be good, do they not work well in sand?
http://www.austinkayak.com/products/244 ... -Cart.html

Also it seemed like the hobie trax 2 frame won't rust as easily, can you buy just the frame and purchase wheels for it? which wheels?


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 10:43 am 
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Sorry for any confusion JollyGreen. I shouldn't post when I am tired. It made perfect sense to me when I wrote it. :roll:

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These seem like they would be good, do they not work well in sand?
http://www.austinkayak.com/products/244 ... -Cart.html

That is exactly what I received. They are much better tires than the old silver ones, and are the best from Hobie in sand! But just not as good as my really old Hobie Scupper cart with the pneumatic rubber tires for hard pack ground or paved areas. The brand new (if out) is the exact same frame, with the pneumatic rubber tires that I like and is cheaper.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 12:50 pm 
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Ah, I see my confusion, I had always referred to the new wheel as the "Urethane Wheel" not knowing it was Pneumatic also, hence me thinking they were solid and fundamentally different from the "Old Silver Ones".

Since the wide-track frame does not stow out-of-the-way in the stern well and can foul the main when sailing (when in that position, according to another AI Capt), I am currently shooting for the new, larger wheels on my old-style narrow track cart.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 10:04 pm 
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reconlon wrote:
Sorry for any confusion JollyGreen. I shouldn't post when I am tired. It made perfect sense to me when I wrote it. :roll:

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These seem like they would be good, do they not work well in sand?
http://www.austinkayak.com/products/244 ... -Cart.html

That is exactly what I received. They are much better tires than the old silver ones, and are the best from Hobie in sand! But just not as good as my really old Hobie Scupper cart with the pneumatic rubber tires for hard pack ground or paved areas. The brand new (if out) is the exact same frame, with the pneumatic rubber tires that I like and is cheaper.


So what is the difference between the new tires and "The Trax 2 Kayak Cart has new 24 cm (blow-molded polyurethane) pneumatic tires."? Are the new ones good on sand as well?


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