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PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2015 8:44 am 
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Lazyfish1 wrote:
Hi

I can submit for this part as part of a warranty claim?


Yes... File away.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2015 12:58 pm 
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mmiller wrote:
Ahhh.

I'm quite certain not a cost saver. That was the bigger point. The places you can "hook" those to vary by model and were not "features" really.

The rusted stainless was (as you noted) was reported here in the forums. This is the best place to find odd issues for sure. This is annoyance level / limited, not critical function related. Easily rectified.

Getting information to dealers is difficult to say the least. Having a usable source for consumers is even more difficult to manage. Information can easily be overload. What you need you can't find. What you find, you don't need. We have nothing like the sophistication of the airline or automotive industries in information reporting and retention.


It was just a little suspicious that the pad eye was removed around 2013 (and reintroduced in 2015) for no apparent reason, leaving no place to place the hook on the Outback...

Yes, rusty buckles were reported... by me! You just reiterated my point that Hobie is reactive instead of proactive. Hobie knew of the problem, yet did not make customers aware. We should not have to rely on fellow kayak enthusiastics to notify us of quality defects. It works out good for Hobie though, you get free product testing and reporting...

Same for hatch seal area. Hobie discovered a problem with manufacturing, yet did not make customers aware. Maybe Hobie should learn from the auto industry and issue bulletins/recalls for issues like this. It is not a stretch to say that the hatch seal issue could lead to a serious capsize/safety issue. I cannot imagine Hobie would fare well if someone capsized or heaven forbid could not make it back to shore and an attorney got ahold of the this.

I think I have beaten the dead horse enough. Again, I love the Hobie product and customer service, just trying to share some ways for improvement.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2015 1:59 pm 
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I got my new seal part, will have to get it in the pool and roll it over now to see if it is fixed


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 28, 2015 4:44 pm 
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 28, 2015 8:30 pm 
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Nice job Brandon! I was just about to share your DIY front hatch fix and see that you've already posted it up. Nice job buddy!


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2015 2:24 pm 
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mmiller wrote:
They all will leak a bit as it is virtually impossible to make a large hatch seal 100%.


I disagree.
But I do understand that it is "virtually impossible" to make a large number of large hatches seal 100%.
And still do it with cost efficiency.

Every individual hatch can be made 100% watertight. But they need individual actions to get 100% watertight.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 01, 2015 9:57 am 
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Of course... We have to shoot for best possible solutions. Engineering is still reviewing and was testing some concepts this morning.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 5:21 am 
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Should we expect an extension in the warranty period if there isn't a fix for this issue by the time some people's yaks fall out of the warranty period? IMHO, I would think that this issue, caught so early and having significant implications, would necessitate it.


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 8:42 am 
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I'm sure we won't do any official adjustment in policy... we rarely have to since we are already so lenient on warranty in general. This will be a simple fix and covered.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 13, 2015 4:27 pm 
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I'm sure you don't hear it enough but thank you Mr. Miller !!! As much as we may come and whine like little kids when their favorite toys break we all appreciate what you do here..

God knows I would have lost it by the 3rd day... Hence why I can't deal with the public [SMILING FACE WITH SMILING EYES]


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 13, 2015 5:00 pm 
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as they say... Sweet wheel gets the grease ... or was that squeaky? :)

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2015 10:00 am 
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Had to delete some inappropriate replies - lets keep it clean everyone. Thanks.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2015 11:26 am 
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Lazyfish1 wrote:
I'm sure you don't hear it enough but thank you Mr. Miller !!! As much as we may come and whine like little kids when their favorite toys break we all appreciate what you do here..

God knows I would have lost it by the 3rd day... Hence why I can't deal with the public [SMILING FACE WITH SMILING EYES]
+1! 8)


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2015 12:30 pm 
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Think you would have lost it earlier then that


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2015 1:55 pm 
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Yep -- very difficult to exercise restraint when someone gets counter productive. Fortunately it's a rarity on this forum. Overall it's a great group! 8)


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